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Old March 19th, 2008, 13:47
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For every woman it is different. I think it's more different due tot he different stages. For some they didn't have time to grab the concept of being pregnant and for others, it was very real. Miscarriage is just as big a loss than any other.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 14:11
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Thank you for saying that. I had a miscarriage approx a year aftr my son was born. I was so upse and no one seemed to understand. The doctors ket calling it a "spontanous abortion" which just got under my skin. No one has ever vlidated those feelng for me before. Thank you.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 20:37
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Someone told me once that a miscarriage is so hard because it is a loss of a dream. I can so relate to that.

My husband and I found out that we were expecting out first child in May 06. We were very excited and starting to talk about names, what we needed for the nursery, how to work out my leave from work and how to tell our parents.

Just 5 weeks later we lost that baby. As hard as it was physically, it was much harder to cope with the loss of that dream. That baby was not going be be born and sleep in the nice nursery we had planned.

Now almost 2 years later, we still think about our Angel baby daily.
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Old March 24th, 2008, 00:56
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Someone told me once that a miscarriage is so hard because it is a loss of a dream. I can so relate to that.
Wow, that is a really good way to describe it. I can see how that would be though, I mean, once you realize that you're pregnant you start creating fantasies about what kind of mother or father you will be. Those dreams can be crushed, and I can see how that could hurt so bad.
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Old March 27th, 2008, 00:13
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I have never had a miscarriage but I understand what you are saying. Doctors actually have to take miscarriage as a medical event because not getting attached or emotional is part of their profession. However when it happens to your friends, its difficult to know what to say to them other than "You can have another baby." Hopefully, if it happens to me, my friends will know what to say.
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Old March 27th, 2008, 14:15
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Miscarriage is most definitely a loss, and I think that doctors just see so much pain, physical and emotional, that they just can't connect with patients in the way we expect them too.
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Old November 13th, 2009, 00:38
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Miscarriage is a curse for womans. Many woman's lost her baby with miscarriage. My friend had a miscarriage last year and it was her first baby. I understood her pain and she had really bad time. Miscarriage is a big loss for ladies.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:28
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I am placing this thread on this page today for anyone who may read the above that were placed here some years back. I want all you dear ones who have lost a child through miscarraige to know something that I pray will bring hope and joy to ya hearts. Ilost a child many years ago now, I always knew in my heart that she is a daughter. When my hubby went home last year to the Lord, I had a dream one night and I was allowed to see her in my dream, she has grown to adulthood, she has my blue eyes and she stood with my husband and my parents sending love to me. Please be assured of this all my broken hearted sisters, your babes are safe with God and they have never and will never know pain or sickness and they are eagerly awaiting to one day meet with you, you will be able to tell them everything and be together forever.

I don't know who will read this, if at all, but if you are one that has found this today or whenever, then it is for you. I can't hug you, whoever you are, but I send to you now much love and Hugs.xxxx

chrissie (gumek.
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Old August 7th, 2012, 11:53
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So many of us forget that love, hopes and dreams are created when we conceive a child. Many fall in love from the word go and when you suffer that loss there is grief. I have never suffered a miscarriage but know many that have and the best advice I think is to just simply be...if you have a friend or loved one that has miscarried, just be there to listen, hold a hand, be a shoulder.
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Old August 17th, 2012, 01:08
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I have not had a miscarriage .... however a friend posted something on FB a few days back that gave me an insight. It all started when a British comedian commented on how brave he thought Gary Barlow [a British singer] was when he performed in the closing ceremony of the Olympics only a week after his wife delivered a still born baby girl. He writes from his own experience as a man who lost a baby to a miscarriage but from the view point of a man, like Gary Barlow, whose child was still born.

I will warn you it's a little long and in places has cuss words [he's a comedian after all] but it's very well written. It starts off with his responses to some "utterly horrendous" comments he found on his FB page but ends with such an insight into a loss of baby that dies in it's mother womb I had goosebumps and a numb feeling.

The Gary Barlow tragedy and internet idiots.
by Jason Manford on Monday, 13 August 2012 at 11:55
Now you know me, I like a laugh. And I do enjoy having a laugh with you lot on here, some of you are witty, some genuinely bonkers, a few of you are dead funny and most of you are respectful, thoughtful human beings and I am honoured that you have liked my page and my work over the years.

But.

Some of you are utterly horrendous. I mean genuinely thick as ****, heartless wastes of oxygen who I am ashamed have liked my page and my work.

Now don’t get me wrong, I like a bit of banter, I can take a joke, I can take an insult, sometimes people go too far, sometimes people get a bit personal but over the years I’ve dished it out and there is very little that anyone can say to me on here that has genuinely hurt me or upset me. Don’t forget I have been performing on stage for well over a decade, I've played some of the roughest, toughest scariest clubs in the world, from the middle eaast to East Croydon. I’ve been heckled and had nasty things shouted out by worse people than you, I’ve had things thrown at me, I've had people come on stage and try to attack me, I’ve even had people waiting in the car park at the end of the gig to give me a bit of one on one 'advice', so I think I can handle a few words written down on a Facebook page in the middle of the night by someone who wouldn’t dare say it to my face.

And you know what, sometimes I court it. I occasionally come on here, bored, not able to sleep and deliberately put something on that I know will spark a discussion, will get the trolls from under their little bridge or get people writing emotive things in the spur of the moment. I like it. I think it is when social media is at it’s best.

But tonight I was saddened, not for me, I’m not arsed, like I said, ‘do your worst’ (I’ll just delete it and pretend it never happened-the ultimate heckle put down).

But during the Olympic closing ceremony I posted this:

“Fair play Gary Barlow. What a superstar. Don't think I could perform after
such a tragedy, amazing.”

I was referring, of course, to the Barlow family’s recent tragedy, their stillborn baby girl, Poppy who was born and died last weekend.

I’m not a Take That fan, I mean I like them, but I don’t own any of their music but I really like Gary Barlow, I’ve never met him (he sent me an email once asking if I could do a charity thing for him) but he seems like a thoroughly lovely chap.

Now after I posted this comment, I just got on with my night, sorting out my own family and half watching the rest of the ceremony. Then I came back, as I always do, and checked the comments. At the time of writing this blog the comments had 10,936 ‘likes’, had been viewed by 101,000 people and had 334 comments. Most of these comments are in agreement but some, oh man, some will make you wince.

Now I’m not talking about people doing jokes, I get that, i don’t like it, it’s not my kind of humour but I get it. Something horrible happens and the gags fly round before the bodies are even cold; 9/11, Madeline McCann, I’m sure even this latest little girl Tia Sharp has more jokes said about her than sympathy flowers outside her home. Again, you know my humour, that’s not me, i don’t appreciate it, I don’t tell them but at the same time, it doesn’t upset me and I don’t get angry about it because, generally, they’re just jokes.

What does get to me, and what does anger me, are people’s genuine opinions. A joke is a joke, we’ve all told an off colour joke to a close friend, knowing full well that it’s not you’re actual opinion. But some of the comments I saw in those 334 would make your blood run cold.

In no particular order, here are the people who disappointed me tonight.

First up is person A who according to his profile lives near me and is a fan of Cheryl Cole and the American TV show, ‘Medium’. His favourite, and only, activity is ‘drinking’ as is his only interest. Let’s assume he’s been drinking tonight, but he wrote:

“money first with mr barlow lol”

Now firstly, I suspect that he never actually ‘loled’ at his own comment since, well, it’s not funny and secondly it’s not factually correct. As a great many of you pointed out, none of the acts got paid for either Olympic ceremonies, they got paid 1 each for contracts but that wouldn’t even get you a hotdog in the Olympic park (they’re 3.40, I was there last week).

More to the point, of all the people to accuse of putting money first, don’t launch it at Gary Barlow. The guy has worked tirelessly over the last few years, organising countless charity and free gigs for the people of this country and abroad, The Children in Need gig at the MEN Arena, the Jubilee celebrations, as well as his continued support of Comic Relief, Help the Heroes, the Roy Castle Lung Cancer Foundation and lots of others beside.

Anyway, that’s just the beginning. Person B writes:

“Appalling! Just a week and he's put money and his job before his family. If he was my husband he'd be out on his ear! I don't think it was brave or legendary!”

And follows it up with:

“I'm sure he did (do it for his country) but it won't do him any harm when that song sells copies again and makes him some money! He does nothing for free, he's completely up himself! Really don't like the bloke. He put his job before his family tonight, that's disrespectful to his wife who probably needs him more than ever right now! And to think I felt sorry for him!”

And then for equal measure:

“He hasn't been respectful to them (his family)! I respect his wife 100% and my heart goes out to her and her other children. My son is my life, I'd die if anything happened to him but if my husband left is to go to work before our child had even had a funeral, I'd never forgive him!”

Now, I know it’s 2012 but I’m always surprised when you get a comment like this from a woman, and a mother no less. There really is a catch 22 with doing charity work when you’re famous. I mean, I am nowhere near as famous as Gary Barlow and I don’t support as many charities but this kind of cynical nature that a lot of people have really plays on your mind when you’re doing charity work. Like when the charity say 'can we put this visit in the paper I always think 'oh no, people will think I've just visited this hospital to get in the paper' where as the charity are thinking "this would be great coverage for us".

This woman says “it won't do him any harm when that song sells copies again and makes him some money”. Now I don’t know what is going through Gary’s head at this time, but I’m pretty sure the already richer-than-all-of-us-put-together superstar at no point thought “I know my wife gave birth to a stillborn child the other day, but I really need to sell some more records”.

What an unbelievably stupid thing to say person B. As for it being ‘disrespectful to his wife’ and ‘putting his job before his family’ again, shut the **** up. You do not know what goes on behind closed doors. For all you know, Gary could have spent the week sobbing his heart out in his bed, under the duvet and saying to his wife, ‘darling, I don’t think i can ever perform again’ and his wife could quite possibly have said ‘Gary, please sing that special song for me and Poppy, it will make us all so proud’. Now I don’t know either, but for you to presume the worst just because you ‘don’t like the bloke’ or think he’s ‘completely up himself’ is a disgusting trait in a human being.

Also being a performer is different from any other job. I’ve had family members pass away, I’ve had very upsetting things happen to me whilst on tour, but you can’t ring up the office and hope you get through to one of the cleaners to explain that you might not be in work today. You can’t go into work and just sit at the back quietly until the boss comes over and tells you to take a few days off. ‘The Show Must Go On’ is one of the most overused cliches in the entertainment world, but it’s because it’s true. If thousands of people have bought a ticket and are waiting to see you perform, have sorted out babysitters, have travelled from all over the country or the world to see you, then quite often, you put your personal problems to one side, and you give them the show that they want. And you know what, your wife fucking supports you because that is who she married; she married a driven professional caring guy, who respects that people have worked hard for their money and so you work hard for yours.

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